Reflections on My Recent Debate

My recent debate with James Corbett on the topic, "Is God the Best Explanation for Moral Values?", has generated quite a stir. A number of people from various backgrounds and beliefs have chimed in with their thoughts, including a popular atheist blogger, a Christian science-fiction writer, a Christian postmodernist, the "Apologetics Junkie," and the Saddleback College paper (the debate was held at Saddleback College).

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Live Debate With Sean McDowell and James Corbett

Here is Part 1 of the debate between Sean McDowell and James Corbett on the question, "Is God the Best Explanation for Moral Values?" To view Part 2, click on "continue reading."

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Upcoming Debate on God and Morality

Next month I will be debating James Corbett from Capistrano Valley High School on the topic: "Is God the Best Explanation for Moral Values." This promises to be an interesting and informative evening! Jim got his Ph.D from Ohio State University and has taught for 37 years. The debate will be held at Saddleback College in Mission Viejo, California, on Friday, February 26 from 7 to 9:30 pm. If you're interested in attending, you can get more information from my website, where I've posted a pdf announcement of the event. If you can't attend in person, be sure to watch it live right here at ConversantLife.com.

 

Priest? Check. Judge? Check. But where's the good Samaritan?

Last night, my parents and I attended both of their church's Christmas Eve services, because my mom is the organist and my dad was reading Scripture. As I usually do when I visit my hometown, I brought my high school friend, Chris, to church with me. Chris has Cerebral Palsy, and the house where he lives does not have a ramp. He has to be carried down about eight steps every time he goes out, which is not very often at all. In fact, he tells me that sometimes the only time he goes out is when my dad picks him up for church.

After the second service, my dad and I planned to drive Chris home and then head home for a late dinner with my mom, who would be waiting for us, oyster stew ready to go. (Since we were bringing Chris and she had to be there early to rehearse with the musicians, we had driven separately to church). But something came up that was not part of our plan: a flat tire, just when we were nearing Chris's house. So, Dad pulled in to a well-lit shopping center in this rough section of town, and we both rolled up our sleeves and got busy changing the tire.

We pulled Chris's wheel chair out of the trunk in order to get to the spare, setting it behind the car. As we began to jack up the car, I noticed a steady stream of cars processing by us from the shopping center. At first, I was mystified at why there would be all these cars there on Christmas Eve night; the center was clearly closed for business. Then it dawned on me. "Dad, is there a church that meets back there?" "Yup," he replied, turning the jack.

I watched car after car drive right by us, having just been to their Christmas Eve service. From where they sat as they drove by, they would have seen a man, a woman and a wheelchair - and perhaps the other man sitting in the front seat. Yet not one person stopped or even slowed down for us. I guess, like us, they had some place to be. I guess that even though they had just heard the message of Christ's birth and sung about the desolation of there being no room at the inn, there was no urge to stop and offer a helping hand to these folks they saw in twenty-something degree weather.

Not that we needed the help. I'm sure if anyone had stopped, my dad would have thanked them and told them we had it under control, they could go on, "but God bless you and Merry Christmas." But the thing is, no one stopped, and as I watched these cars pass us by, not even acknowledging that we were there changing a tire late at night on Christmas Eve, my heart broke, not because we needed help, but because no one even offered.

Less than an hour before our Christmas Eve flat tire, I heard these words sung:

Truly He taught us to love one another,
His law is love and His gospel is peace.
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POOR

During the Holidays from Thanksgiving to Christmas, we are typically very aware of the needs of the poor.  We often utilize this time to help those with extra needs.  I applaud this sense of desiring to help.  But the other day, as I was reading in Matthew, I began to think a bit about another kind of poverty.
Jesus states in Matthew 5, “blessed are the poor in Spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.”

As I think through this, I have to wonder, what is “poor in Spirit?”  I found some commentary here, and I begin thinking that poverty of spirit has more to do with what one thinks they have rather than poverty in finances, etc.

In other words, when we think we have it all together spiritually, that we are a spiritual leader, when we have a good understanding or mastery of the Gospel, we may actually be far from God. However, when we are humbled, knowing that we are not “the stuff”, we are able to see some glimpses of God’s Kingdom, the one on earth here and now.  

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Sex, the city, and shame... and more

There's an issue floating around in the Christian single sub-culture, sometimes near the surface, sometimes deeply subterranean. The issue is the vast disconnect that appears between practice and profession when it comes to our sexual ethics. A recent survey indicated that over 90% of engaged young people who professed to know Christ and follow His taeachings agree that sexual intimacy is to be confined to the bounds of covenant relationship, i.e.: marriage. In spite of this clear sense of conviction, however, roughly 2 out of 3 reported that they'd violated this principle, and roughly 1 out of 2 reported that they're presently violating this ethic, as they sleep with their fiance.
The sample from this survey was arguably too small to draw any meaningful conclusions, but it does represent a reality we ought to address: when it comes to sexuality, there's a chasm between what we say we believe, and what we actually do. What factors contribute to this chasm?
 
1. Our culture's attitude towards sexuality. Whether it's a local indie paper,reruns of "Sex in the City", advertisements for beer, cars, deodorant, or the text of a recent hip-hop song, let's not kid ourselves into believing that we're immune from the sexualized nature of it all. We're trying to hold our sexuality according to God's redemptive plan, but God's ethic requires some serious swimming against the overwhelming tide of our culture. At every turn the message to "touch me", "taste me", "do me" is present, either directly or subliminally, declaring through it's presence that our sexuality is an appetite, like food - and we all know what to do when we're hungry.
I'll note before moving on, that this isn't some sort of 21st century phenomena. 1st century Rome shared these values, as have countless cultures scattered across time and geography through the ages. To think differently than the prevailing culture is, of course, one of our primary challenges, and primary means of transformation. So, it helps to be aware of the ocean in which we're swimming.
 
2. Shame - The Christian community elevates virginity as a virtue. This, of course, is appropriate, because this is what Scripture teaches. However, there's something inherent in how we talk about virginity that makes its maintenance tantamount to the free climb of a rock face: fall once, and you die. Thus have many shared, in the confidentiality of pastoral work, or with friends or counselors, that "it's over. In a moment of weakness I took off my purity ring, and then, well you know what happened." Dejected, and feeling a sense of shame never intended by Christ, he or she decides that, since they've already lost it, there's no point in battling. Purity is now unattainable. Why bother? Of course, most wouldn't say it that way, but that's the way it actually plays out.
 
I suppose there are 30 more reasons for the battle, but I got a late start today, so I'm going to limit my comments to these two, offering some thoughts about how we might best navigate the waters of our sexuality, in light of these realities.
 
1. The culture piece is gigantic, but of course, we knew that from Romans 12. If there's a current pulling me in one direction, and it's not the direction I want to go, I need to find a way to travel against the current. The answer isn't withdrawal from culture, because there are other factors at work besides culture (just ask the monks who wrote this poetry). Instead of trying to be a fish out of water (which is what it would be like to try and be a non-sexual being in a sexual world), I simply need to flood myself with right thinking, which will help me understand my identity, sexuality, and calling, from God's perspective.
You might try this, or this, or this, to get you started. The reality is that if I read the Stranger and watch Friends or Sex in the City, more than I read my Bible or listen to my pastor's podcasts, I'm failing to swim upstream. Thus I shouldn't be surprised when I land downstream, my boat having been dashed to bits by the rocky realities of sex without covenant, realities that exist for certain, but which aren't addressed by "Friends" or in "The Stranger"
 
2. It's this shame thing that really enrages me, because it comes from the damned accuser, AND it comes from the church. We need to talk about the incredible restorative power of God's grace and the reality that His mercies are new every morning, that yesterday's failures are gone, gone, gone. We need to speak of the reality that all of us are fallen, and thus stop throwing rocks and begin blessing and healing.
There is o so much more to say about this important subject, because I know that people are living with confusion, shame, guilt, and anger - having been abused, or hardened, disillusioned, and shamed. Let's start the dialogue.
What else contributes to our sexual struggles and confusion?
What other things have people found helpful?

The Worst "Christians" in the World

A couple of years ago the BBC aired a television documentary about Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist (the “God Hates Fags” church). The documentary, The Most Hated Family in America, follows the BBC’s Louis Thoreaux as he spends time in Topeka with the Phelps. I watched it for the first time yesterday, and experienced the most anger and disgust I’ve ever felt towards people who supposedly worship the same God of the same religion and Bible as I do. I was thinking that if these people are Christians and are going to be in heaven one day, I don’t know if I want to be there with them. It’s a HIGHLY disturbing and maddening film for anyone to watch, but perhaps especially frightful for anyone who cares about Christianity and hates to see it be expressed in such a thoroughly skewed, unbiblical, self-serving manner.

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Christian Cussing

When I was a writer for The Wheaton Record circa 2003, I wrote a feature entitled “Cursing at Wheaton.” It was a two-page spread, 3,000 word story that I had researched and worked on for a month. It covered all the angles of cursing from a Christian perspective, including insightful interviews with English and Anthropology professors (Roger Lundin and Brian Howell), and even a survey of 100 Wheaton students who reported on their cursing habits. My biggest finding in the article? Seniors at Wheaton were about 30% more likely to cuss on a daily basis than were freshman. And more likely to use the f- word on a daily basis. No big surprise, I guess. The language of Christian young people isn’t as pristine as it used to be.

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How Michael Vick-haters and backers can usher in a new culture

The media can definitely be guilty of playing devil’s advocate when it comes to hot-button issues. There’s been nothing hotter the last couple weeks than Michael Vick’s reinstatement into football. Sports radio, primetime TV, blogs, etc., have been inundated with opinionated people, most of whom fall under two categories: Vick haters and Vick backers.  

 

Vick backers (and I use the word backer loosely) fall under the premise that Vick served his time so let him have a second chance. Vick haters believe strongly that his despicable actions against dogs are unforgivable.

PETA, dog lovers and spokespeople from every anti-cruelty animal organization have come out of the woodwork to not only share their strong dissent on the NFL’s decision to reinstate Vick, but how deplorable it is of the Philadelphia Eagles organization to allow him to suit up. Just the other morning, I was listening to a caller on a New York radio station blast the Eagles for welcoming Vick onto their team, saying in a much-less articulate term, “Vick is a piece of crap and deserves to be treated like his dogs.”

If you have time, read some of the comments on numerous forums everywhere, and you’ll feel the vitriol against Vick. Let me quickly sum up the range of comments you’ll read from the anti-Vick to the pro-Vick:

-    I’m a dog lover and Vick’s act is unforgivable.

-    Vick did his time for the crime.

-    Someone who can murder and mutilate dogs like that is crazy in the head.

-    Vick is a thug and always will be.

-    Everyone deserves a second chance.

-    The dogs never had a second chance.

-    He’s a human being, not a dog.

-    Boycott the Eagles.

-    Support the Eagles and Vick.

-    This is a cultural and racial issue.

-    Don’t bring race into this, this is an ethical/moral issue.

A valid point people have made is that Vick didn’t come to his senses until he got caught, declared bankruptcy and was left with no one who believed in him. Actually, the more doubtful person will say Vick is crawling back to the NFL because he needs money.

Here is the thing that hardly anyone talks about: what does the Vick-reaction tell you about our society’s idea about redemption?

One of the better movies of the last 20 years is a prison film titled, “The Shawshank Redemption.” Based on a Stephen King book, this film illustrated corruption at its very worst, but fortunately, the protagonist of the story (Andy Dufresne), never gave up the one thing that prison can so easily steal: hope. In a conversation in the prison courtyard between Dufresne and his best friend in prison (Ellis Boyd ‘Red’ Redding), Dufresne is sharing his hope of one day getting out and living in Mexico.

Dufresne: You know what the Mexicans say about the Pacific?
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What is college for?

Ah, the millennial generation.  Gifted, Connected, Caring, and …. Entitled.  Even though it’s old news now, last week I was shocked to read about a student who is suing her college because she can’t find a job.  I couldn’t believe it as I read the article quoting her saying, "They're supposed to say, 'I got this student, her attendance is good, her GPA is all right -- can you interview this person?' They're not doing that," she said.”  The GPA she speaks of is 2.7, which is a C average. 

The student claims to have sent her resume’ out to employers who have listed jobs with the college’s career center and the college should have “got her.”  And I have to say the college did let her down.  According to Monroe College’s website, their mission statement and core values are as follows:

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