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 <description>&lt;p&gt;In a few short years, students will leave our homes and graduate from our churches.  They&#039;ll head off to college.  Who&#039;s waiting for them?  What kinds of people will they meet?  And are they ready?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:29:22 -0700</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
“God is like a three-headed dragon,” offered one high school
student.  “I think God is like a Transformer,” blurted out a junior
higher in the front row.  I had just asked students at this summer camp
to give a brief definition of the Trinity.  They reached for all sorts
of analogies to explain God’s nature.  Heresy soon followed (&lt;strong&gt;Disclaimer: &lt;/strong&gt; no heretical students were burned at the stake).  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Next,
I asked for biblical justification.  “What Scripture tells us that God
is a trinity?  Where in the Bible do we find the word?”  Students began
thumbing through their Bibles, searching for the elusive verses.  A few
went straight to their concordances.  Several minutes passed.  No
verses were offered.  Finally, a female underclassman ventured a
guess.  “There is no Bible verse that uses the word Trinity, right?”  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
After
watching students struggle, their youth leaders were frustrated.  But
the failure of these young Christians to explain an essential belief
like the Trinity was to be expected.  After in-depth research,
sociologist Christian Smith found “the vast majority of [American
teenagers] to be incredibly inarticulate about their faith, their
religious beliefs and practices, and its meaning or place in their
lives.”  When students aren’t systematically trained, heresy becomes
habit.  So these young believers needed some patient, yet thorough theological
instruction.  And after seeing their own inability to explain an
essential of the faith, they were eager and ready.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I started
with James White’s concise, yet precise, definition of the Trinity: 
“Within the one Being that is God, there simultaneously exists three
coequal, coeternal, and distinct persons, namely, the Father, the Son,
and the Holy Spirit.”  There are three divine persons—Father, Son, Holy
Spirit—in one being—God.  Simply put, there is one “what” and three
“who’s.”  I explained to students how all analogies end up being
heretical, even though they may be helpful at first.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;/files/u1761/Slide1-50_.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;360&quot; height=&quot;270&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;Next I
offered a biblical case.  There is no single passage to cite.  Instead,
I showed students how to build their case for the Trinity on three
foundations (see White&#039;s book, &lt;em&gt;The Forgotten Trinity&lt;/em&gt;).  First,
the Scripture clearly teaches there is only one God.  I took them to
Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 43:10 and 44:6-8, and John 17:3.  Second, I
showed them how each person is divine in nature.  John 1:1 says “the
word [Jesus] was God.”  In John 10:30, Jesus says, “I and the Father
are one,” clearly a claim to deity when you examine the context.  And
the Apostle Paul echoes this in Philippians 2:5-8.  In Acts 5:3-4,
lying to the Holy Spirit is equated with lying to God.  Thirdly, I
showed them how the three divine persons are coequal and coeternal,
citing Genesis 1:26, Matthew 28:19, and a host of other verses.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It
was a bit of a theological workout but students consumed it.  And
enjoyed it.  This was the kind of in-depth training we offered students
during each session at camp.  Feedback from the counselors was
unanimous—students told them it was the most challenging church camp
ever.  Again and again they expressed their thankfulness for being
challenged.  I guess they were glad to move from little heretics to
budding theologians.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But I didn’t leave the Trinity in the realm
of mere academic theological exercise.  We discussed its implications
for worship.  I showed students how worshipping God is no longer the
worship of a distant ambiguous being.  The word “God” now had very
specific content for them.  They were worshipping the Trinitarian God
of the Bible—Father, Son and Holy Spirit—who has existed from all
eternity.  A God unlike any other god.  The one true God.  And that
theological truth is transformational.
&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:54:37 -0700</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/how-many-youth-are-leaving-the-church&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Last week I posted troubling statistics&lt;/a&gt; about the amount of churched youth who walk away once they&#039;re in college.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cpyu.org/Default.aspx&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;CPYU&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;has been interviewing college students as part of their College Transition Initiative.  They&#039;ve asked students, &amp;quot;As
you reflect on your church youth group experience, what are some things
you wish your youth group would have done more of to prepare you for
college?&amp;quot;  Their answers are instructive for parents, pastors, youth leaders--any of us who teach youth in some capacity.  &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cpyu.org/Default.aspx&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cpyu.org/page.aspx?id=351866&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Alysia at the University of Illinois&lt;/a&gt; said:&lt;/span&gt;
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	&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;My
	youth group was fairly useless in preparing me for college. A short
	course in different religions helped me, but what helped me more was
	attending Worldview Academy for two summers. &lt;u&gt;The challenging of my
	faith and teaching me the apologetics, leadership, and evangelism
	helped the most&lt;/u&gt;--especially by helping me determine why I personally
	believed in Christianity and by giving me the tools to help share that
	with others...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;My
	youth group was a place where the leaders were trying everything from
	games to parties to entice people to come, but they wouldn&#039;t dive deep
	into any theological or social topic. &lt;u&gt;We were treated as intellectual
	babies and thus never grew to understand the importance or the
	relevance of the Christian faith&lt;/u&gt;. &lt;/span&gt; 
	&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0.25in 0pt 0in; text-align: justify&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cpyu.org/page.aspx?id=351872&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Daniel at Erskine College&lt;/a&gt; said:&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;margin-right: 0px&quot;&gt;
	&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0.25in 0pt 0in; text-align: justify&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
	&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;I
	wish my youth group had done more to prepare me for the academic
	challenges to Christianity instead of focusing on high school drama. I
	was fortunate to make great and knowledgeable friends, but I have known
	others who have turned away because of professors and students raising
	tough objections. I&lt;u&gt; wish my youth group had taken things more seriously
	and done more apologetics and less of worrying about the drama of high
	school&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;
	&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0.25in 0pt 0in; text-align: justify&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cpyu.org/page.aspx?id=351875&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Gabrielle at Chatham University&lt;/a&gt; said: &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;
	&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt;I
	was in several youth groups in high school and unfortunately found that
	youth group was too “soft”—we played a lot of games and had a lot of
	fun retreats, &lt;u&gt;but rarely learned about the fundamentals of faith, why
	we believe what we believe, and what it is that we do believe&lt;/u&gt;. Now that
	I am in college, my faith is under constant scrutiny and always being
	tested by scientific concepts and the secular slant of most
	universities. &lt;u&gt;I wish I had been equipped with a more solid
	justification for my faith: knowing how to answer the tough questions,
	how to respond to arguments, and how to stand firm in what feels like a
	storm against my spirituality&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: &#039;Trebuchet MS&#039;&quot;&gt; In hindsight, these young people realized that much of the substance of youth ministry left them ill-equipped for challenges in the university.  It&#039;s not entirely sufficient for holistic discipleship but deep theological and apologetic training is certainly necessary.  Failure to give them such training is a big reason many eventually leave Christ and His Church...oftentimes for good.   &lt;/span&gt;
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 <description>&lt;div class=&quot;entry-content&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;entry-body&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;If you discovered about half of the students in your church&#039;s youth ministry were going to walk away from Christ after entering college, would you do something about it?  I hope so.  That&#039;s not a very good retention rate.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;But whatpercentage of Christian youth are actually leaving the church?  There’sbeen some debate about the actual number, with some saying &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/06/us/06evangelical.html?pagewanted=print&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;as little as 4% will remain Christian&lt;/a&gt;, while others suggest there’s virtually no exodus.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Christian Smith tells us that evangelicals have been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2007/001/5.11.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;behaving badly with statistics&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;and quickly dispenses with the 4% &amp;quot;panic-attack&amp;quot; stats.   But can weget some idea of the percentage of youth leaving the church withoutbeing irresponsible with numbers?&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;These are the most recent and most cited studies that I could find: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;88%:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbcannualmeeting.net/sbc02/newsroom/newspage.asp?ID=261&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The Southern Baptist Convention&#039;s Family Life Council study in 2002&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; (unfortunately, I can&#039;t find the actual study and methodology)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;70%:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;#mce_temp_url#&quot;&gt;LifeWay Research study in 2007&lt;/a&gt; (LifeWay also found only 35% eventually return)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;66%:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ag.org/top/Events/General_Council_2007/News/20070810/20070810_18_youth.cfm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Assembly of God study&lt;/a&gt; (again, I can&#039;t find the actual study, only references here and there)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;61%:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#mce_temp_url#&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;Barna study in 2006 -- &amp;quot;Most Twentysomethings Put Christianity on the Shelf...&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;The LifeWay and Barna studies include research details.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I’m no sociologist but from what I can tell, their methodology seems sounds.&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;Here are some related studies:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spirituality.ucla.edu/news/Spirituality_2003-11-21.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;Spirituality in Higher Education&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;: 	The Higher Education Research Institute at UCLA found that 52% of	college students reported frequent church attendance the year before	they entered college but only 29% continued frequent church attendance	by their junior year.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fulleryouthinstitute.org/college-transition/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;College Transition Project&lt;/a&gt;: 	The Fuller Youth Institute&#039;s current data seems &amp;quot;to suggest that about	40-50% of students in youth groups struggle in their faith after	graduation.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gallup.com/poll/6124/Religiosity-Cycle.aspx&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;The Religiosity Cycle&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;A 2002 Gallup Poll study found that church attendance “drops during the teen and young adult years.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #000000&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Conclusion:&lt;/strong&gt; It&#039;s safe to conclude the church is losing a signficant portion of itsyoung people for some period of time.  Even if we take Barna&#039;s lowernumbers and then cut 10% off to be extra conservative, we&#039;re stilltalking about losing half of our young people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #000000&quot;&gt;Is that acceptable?  And if not, why are we losing them and what needs to be done?&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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