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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I don’t know anyone
that authentically follows Jesus that hasn’t struggled with faith at some
point. Some people struggle intellectually: they learn something new and don’t
know how to compute it with their faith. Others are troubled because of crisis:
Something horrible happens and they don’t know if they believe anymore, because
they can’t imagine God letting the pain or evil they’ve experienced go
unchecked.&lt;/strong&gt;
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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;A little observed fact about Christianity is that struggle
is a good thing. Few good things happen without scars. (And everyone needs to
grow up, out of the ignorance of youth.) No one ever lived a great life without
some sort of turmoil. The greatest leaders in Christianity have suffered for
their beliefs, and nearly all of Jesus’ earliest followers died for their
beliefs.
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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But it’s a major problem
when we blame God for the physical, spiritual, and intellectual struggles we
experience. &lt;/strong&gt;This problem is rooted in a misunderstanding of how God
operates in the world.&lt;strong&gt; The pain in our
world is rooted in how people respond to God; not in God’s decisions.&lt;/strong&gt; If we
were all in perfect relationship with God, evil people wouldn’t exist.
Likewise, if we were in perfect relationship with God, we wouldn’t have
intellectual struggles. We would know Him and understand Him. And if we were in
perfect relationship with God, the world wouldn’t be a chaotic mess full of
physical pain.
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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;In addition, intellectual struggles are usually rooted in ignorance,
like the kind often manifested in fundamentalism. (“Just believe what we say,”
is how I define fundamentalism.) In many sects of Christianity, faith is seen
as something separated from intellect. Thus, when intellect is actually used to
analyze faith, faith begins to crumble. I’m betting that if we taught the full
truth in our churches, we wouldn’t see people lose faith in college. Instead,
we would see them encounter things they already had an answer to. And when they
didn’t have an answer, they would have a support system—in other people and in
their own faith—to rely on. We would support them in the struggle. We need
people to rely on, but who are they? How do we identify them?
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Here’s where it gets really good: There is a spiritual gift
to support people in faith struggles. Yes, faith itself can be a spiritual
gift.
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&lt;blockquote style=&quot;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 40px; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-style: none; padding: 0px&quot;&gt;
	&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;To each is given the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;manifestation of the Spirit&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt; for the common&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt; good&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;For to one is given &lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;through the Spirit &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;he utterance of wisdom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #f5f5f5; font-family: Arial&quot;&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;to another the &lt;/em&gt;utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit,&lt;em&gt; to another faith by the same Spirit&lt;/em&gt;, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills (1 Corinthians 12:7–11 ESV).&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Have you ever met someone with the gift of faith? They just
seem to be faithful no matter what. They’re always loyal, always attached to
Christ, and never cease to believe in the betterment of others&lt;strong&gt;. People with the gift of faith place
everything in the hands of Jesus—claiming that He will redeem, no matter what
the circumstances.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;These people are
encouraging. They give us hope&lt;/strong&gt; (which happens to be part of the definition
of faith, in Hebrews 11:1).
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Now, faith is required for all Christians, as is wisdom and
knowledge. But the thing about spiritual gifts is that they are a way of
labeling what comes easier for some people over others. (Spiritual offices are
more unique in this regard.) Some are almost naturally wise—always observing.
Others seem to just remember things—they know when others forget. And others
just believe—no matter what, they have faith when others don’t.
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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The most faithful
among us are rarely recognized. They’re uncompromising, but we don’t realize it
because nothing ever seems to change about them: they don’t complain when
things get difficult, but instead believe.&lt;/strong&gt; They’re forcing us all to grow,
but we don’t recognize their growth because it’s too consistent.&lt;strong&gt; People with the gift of faith are like an
oak tree in the front yard. &lt;/strong&gt;It’s growth is slow and steady. It’s not until
we reflect on pictures of the tree when it was small that we realize that it
has been with us all along, and has been a subtle reminder of providence. God
has cared for it, because it simply waited patiently for the sun and the rain.
And something as simple as its leafs and fallen branches become a nurturing
place for others.
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;We need people who will remind us of what we’re meant to be,
and people with the gift of faith do just that. Every community needs someone
who remembers what it’s all about: the gospel and the gospel alone—showing the
love of Jesus to the world and the hope of salvation He offers.
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We all need hope. And
we all need someone to believe in us when we’ve stopped believing in ourselves.
People with the gift of faith see God’s faithfulness working in us and through
us. They recognize Jesus’ plan for our lives, as individuals and collectively
as church communities; and they continue to remind us of it.&lt;/strong&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Who has faith no matter what in your community?
How can you promote people with this gift?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;color: #444444&quot;&gt;Join the movement. Be the first to know. &lt;a href=&quot;http://eepurl.com/c4ZqA&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Sign up for updates here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;color: #444444&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://eepurl.com/c4ZqA&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;color: #444444&quot;&gt;Want to read the entire series? Here is a round-up:&lt;/strong&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/spiritual-gifts-or-curses&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Spiritual gifts or curses?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/we-dont-compare-ourselves-to-elijah-but-should&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;We don’t compare ourselves to Elijah but should&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/treating-pastors-like-restaurant-managers&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Treating pastors like restaurant managers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/jesus-in-a-cashmere-sweater&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Jesus in a cashmere sweater&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/banishing-sunday-school-teachers&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Banishing Sunday school teachers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/spiritual-gridlock-the-end-of-miracles&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Spiritual gridlock: the end of miracles?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/the-myth-of-the-apolitical-church&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The myth of the apolitical church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/healing-its-what-we-all-need&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Healing: it&#039;s what we all need&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/help-a-war-cry-not-a-cry-of-desperation&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Help: a war cry, not a cry of desperation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/administrators-leaders-not-paper-pushers&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Administrators: leaders, not paper pushers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/44083/edit&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Speaking in tongues: not crazy, just different&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/interpreting-well-everything&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Interpreting, (well) everything&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/the-higher-gifts-an-owners-manual&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The higher gifts: an owner&#039;s manual&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/why-pastors-never-meet-expectations&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Why pastors never meet expectations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/looney-tunes-and-the-church&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Looney tunes and the church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/purpose-its-confusing&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Purpose: it&#039;s confusing&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/be-a-man&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;Be a man&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/growing-pains-dont-be-like-mike&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Growing pains: don&#039;t be like Mike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/i-don%E2%80%99t-want-you-to-be-uninformed&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;I don&#039;t want you to be uninformed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/spiritual-gifts-a-definition&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Spiritual gifts: a definition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/49014/edit&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Onward towards a better way&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/the-church/wheres-god-today&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Where&#039;s God today?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/theology/faith-over-intellect-intellect-over-faith-0&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Faith over intellect? Intellect over faith?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNoSpacing&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;The
GOP is dogmatically anti-science. They reject the conclusions of manmade global warming, which has been accepted by virtually all scientists. And they deny the
overwhelming evidence of evolution. They are anti-science, anti-knowledge, and
anti-progress.  The possibility of an
anti-science candidate getting elected to the White House is a terrifying
prospect for it would put our economic, environmental, and political state into
potential disaster. For the sake of the next generation, please don’t elect
such a candidate!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; font-size: 12pt&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If
you believe this rendition, it’s likely you’ve been following the incessant
portrayal of the GOP in the media. Consider a few recent headlines: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; font-size: 12pt&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; font-size: 12pt&quot;&gt;“Republicans Against Science,” “Why
Republicans Deny Science: The Quest for a Scientific Explanation,” and “Rick
Santorum is King of the GOP’s Anti-Science Presidential Candidates.” The list
could go on. But the message is clear: the Republican Party is full of ignorant
science-deniers who are a threat to the future of America (of course, exception
is made for John Huntsman, who has tried to cast himself as the pro-science
Republican alternative by accepting evolution and manmade global warming).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sure,
more Republicans are skeptical of evolution and man-made global warming than
Democrats. But why does this make them “anti-science”? Interestingly, studies
show that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2011-09-20/gop-democrats-science-evolution-vaccine/50482856/1&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;anti-vaccine
sentiment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;
is higher in progressive areas such as Washington, Vermont, and Oregon. Arguably,
the results of rejecting vaccines can be far more disastrous than rejecting
evolution. So, why doesn’t this make Democrats anti-science? Do I smell a double-standard?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; font-size: 12pt&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Let
me begin with a qualifier. My purpose in writing this is not specifically to
defend the GOP. I have not ever publicly endorsed a candidate for any party and
I probably never will. This is not a political blog, although it clearly has
political implications. My purpose is to challenge poor thinking about science.
If the GOP critiqued Democrats for being anti-science with the same arguments,
I would defend the Democrats. My purpose is to challenge the assumption that
rejecting a particular scientific theory is akin to being anti-science.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
My
real question is why doubting evolution makes one anti-science in the first
place. Why can’t someone be pro-science yet skeptical of evolution? Maybe the
evolution-skeptic just thinks the evidence is lacking. It’s never been clear to
me why doubting evolution automatically disqualifies someone from being
pro-science. The skeptic may reject the consensus, but again, why does that
make one anti-science? After all, even Darwin rejected the scientific consensus
of his day. &lt;em&gt;Jurassic &lt;/em&gt;Park author &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://afterall.net/quotes/490996&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;Michael Crichton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt; said it best:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; font-size: 12pt&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
“I
want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of
what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an
extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks.
Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels;
it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled.
Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something, reach for
your wallet, because you’re being had…The greatest scientists in history are
great precisely because they broke with consensus…If it’s consensus, it isn’t
science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Crichton
makes a powerful point—consensus is often claimed to avoid debate. That’s why
the claim is incessantly made that the evidence for evolution is
“overwhelming.” You may be tempted to think that the debate over evolution has
been settled. But that may be premature. Yes, a majority of scientists do
accept evolution, but a growing number of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;Ph.D. scientists&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt; from leading
universities such as Harvard, Princeton, UC Berkeley, and the University of
Moscow have come to doubt the efficacy of Darwinian evolution to account for
the variety and complexity of life on earth. Does this make them anti-science? Of
course not! Only someone blindly committed to a worldview would suggest so.
These scientists value science—they just understand the facts differently.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; font-size: 12pt&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The
merits of evolution are actually irrelevant to my point. Maybe Darwin was right.
Maybe Darwin was wrong. But it certainly doesn’t follow that someone who doubts
his theory is automatically “anti-science.” In fact, such a claim is avowedly
anti-science, for scientists are supposed to challenge the status quo and
follow the evidence wherever it leads!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In
a New York Times column titled, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/opinion/republicans-against-science.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;“Republicans
Against Science,”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif&quot;&gt;
Paul Krugman says, “&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white&quot;&gt;Mr. Perry, the
governor of Texas, recently made headlines by dismissing evolution as ‘just a
theory,’ one that has ‘got some gaps in it’ — an observation that will come as
news to the vast majority of biologists.” The majority of biologists do accept
evolution. But is truth determined by numbers? Suggesting so is only meant to
silence critics and avoid debate. Even if the majority of scientists would be
surprised that evolution has “some gaps in it,” as Krugman suggests, why would
that make skeptics anti-science?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; color: black; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Some Republicans may be anti-science. But so may
some Democrats. Alex Berezow made this point in his recent USA Today column,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2011-09-20/gop-democrats-science-evolution-vaccine/50482856/1&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; text-decoration: none&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white&quot;&gt;“GOP may be
anti-science, but so are Democrats.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, serif; color: black; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white&quot;&gt; To label
an entire party as “anti-science” is mistaken and simplistic. &lt;a name=&quot;_GoBack&quot; title=&quot;_GoBack&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;We
need to move beyond labels and actually engage the issues. But maybe I’m too
naïve. After all, it’s much easier (and effective) to label someone than
actually consider their point of view.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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In my book, &lt;em&gt;Why
Trust Jesus?,&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; I refer to
Augustine’s journey and wrestle with trust, but as I have been taking a course
this semester at the University of Dallas with Dr. William Frank, I decided to
come back and revisit that theme of trust. I still agree with what I wrote in
my book, &lt;em&gt;Why Trust Jesus?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
but I wanted share another one of my short papers that I wrote for this class.
I will eventually submit a couple more papers on this Conversant blog about
Augustine.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If you have read the
Confessions multiple times or are brand new in studying Augustine, please write
your comments and let me know what you have observed in the text. 
&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;In Book VIII of &lt;em&gt;Confessions,&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; Augustine recollects the experience of
internal turmoil, indecisiveness, self -knowledge, and temptation of old
memories and habits. Augustine encounters Lady Continence, urging him to trust
God. Throughout this eighth book, we see multiple pictures and stories, each in
its unique way, reinforcing one of this book’s main themes of trusting God
rather than self. As Continence speaks, trust seems to be such a simple act,
but complex emotions including fear, lust and pride are at stake. Continence
challenges, Augustine, &amp;quot;Why do you stand on yourself, and thus stand not
at all? Cast yourself on him. Have no fear. He will not draw back and let you
fall. Cast yourself trustfully on him: he will receive you and he will heal
you.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref1&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn1&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Trusting God, specifically through Jesus Christ, was included in the final
passage that brought a peaceful light streaming into Augustine’s soul. “Not in
rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and impurities, not in strife, and
envying; but put you on the Lord Jesus Chris, and make not provision for the
flesh in its concupiscence.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref2&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn2&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref2&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;Contrary to
trusting God, trusting in self could include the comfortable dependence on
temporary pleasures and lusts of flesh, like “drunkenness,” or lust of the
eyes, “impurities” or the pride of life, such as “envy.” The Bishop Augustine
reflecting on this encounter with the lady of continence, says, “hosts of
youths, men and women of every age, grace widows and aged virgins…were born of
you, O Lord, her spouse.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref3&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn3&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref3&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
She smiles at the young Augustine and says, “Cannot you do what these youths
and these maidens do?”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref4&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn4&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref4&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
This challenge not only challenges the young Augustine to consider the simple
of faith of uneducated, but also seems to be climatic of these previous stories
in the book that the Bishop Augustine has told. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;Earlier in the
book, Augustine recalled how Simplicianus, who was mentor of Ambrose, told
Augustine a story about Victorinus. The story of Victorinus was the first of
several stories of showing how a person, with influence in the eyes of the
world, at one point, gave up trust in self to “cast themselves trustfully on
God.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref5&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn5&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref5&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
James O’Donnell’s summarizes the book: “Book Eight, consists almost entirely of
a series of specific recalled episodes; the first two (conversations with
Simplicianus and Ponticianus) containing embedded narratives of other
conversation stories, the third (the garden scene) being Augustine’s own
conversion story.” &lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref6&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn6&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref6&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;Victorinus was a
Roman rhetorician, with wider fame than Augustine. For a while, Victorinus was
convinced intellectually that Christianity was true, but did not want to submit
his will and trust to the worship of the Holy Eucharist. Finally he submitted
and made a public profession of faith. Previously, Augustine wrote on his own
intellectual conversation, but the conversion of the heart, includes a decision
of trust. The older bishop Augustine now sees the similarity of both conversion
stories of Victorinus and himself. O’Donnell writes, “Nowhere in book eight,
does Augustine offer the slightest suggestion that he had any remaining
intellectual doubts about Christianity.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref7&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn7&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref7&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
This indicates that the purpose of this book is to show the will of decision,
the attitude of the heart and surrender of trust.
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;Augustine
references multiple times, “the world.” Concerning his contemplation of
Victorinus, he mentions, “Thus by the burdens of this world I was sweetly
weighed down, just as a man often is in sleep.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref8&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn8&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref8&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
As Augustine mentions “world” and “self,” he seems to be indicating a spiritual
dimension. According to Augustine, “self” is not just the physical, materialistic
body of Manichaeism. Neither is the “world” always, purely the physical world. It
is true that Augustine’s struggle was with the material world to some extent,
as he recollects his transition from Manichaeism to the ideas of Neo-Platonism.
He recalls Platonism persuading his mind away from the philosophical
materialism of Manichaeism.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However,
Augustine, who references St. Paul’s letters of Romans and Ephesians throughout
this books, wrote, “Thus I understood from my own experience what I had read,
how ‘the flesh lusts against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh.’”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref9&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn9&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref9&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;As Augustine’s
battle is not entirely the physical world (though the physical can be
included), he seems to be referring to the world defined by St. John in 1 John
2:15-17. Earlier, the Bishop Augustine had referenced, St. John who wrote, “Do
not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love
for the Father is not in them. For everything in the world—the lust of the
flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father
but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the
will of God lives forever.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref10&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn10&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref10&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
It seems that St. John, whom Augustine alludes, was bringing a clarification in
terms, that the world does not mean &lt;em&gt;just&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; the physical world, &lt;em&gt;rather &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;than the ‘lust of the flesh, lust of the
eyes and pride of life.’” Otherwise St. John (and Augustine) would seem to be
contradicting himself, in his gospel account of Christ. John wrote, “For &lt;em&gt;God
so loved the world&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; that
he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but
have eternal life.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref11&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn11&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref11&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
So the “world” is not merely physical, but can also include the soul’s inward
desires and choices towards lust and pride.
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;Next Augustine
has a conversation with Ponticianus. Ponticianus speaks of the courtiers of
Trier who gave up everything that had to follow God. He references the
influence of the men reading Anthony, the Egyptian monk, who grew up in wealth
yet forsook it. Carl Vaught says, “Augustine’s shame intensifies as Ponticianus
continues to speak, and hidden dimensions of himself of which he has been
unaware for so long begin to emerge from behind his back. When his friend has
finished his story and leaves Augustine standing in the garden with Alypius,
the young Rhetorician begins to talk to himself. He lashes his soul to make it
follow his will; and the ethical side of himself no longer winks at his sin
(8.7.18). Yet in this moment of perplexity and indecision, he continues to turn
away from the transformation he seeks.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref12&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn12&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref12&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;Augustine has
wanted success has a rhetorician, yet he is still holding to not only pride,
but specifically lust. It was not that anything was wrong specifically,
intrinsically with the material goods of this world including bodies and
possessions, but Augustine, must as Continence says himself trustfully on God.
This indicates Augustine no longer trusting finite goods, nor trusting his own
false infinitude. Collin Starnes says, “The problem with these finite goods was
simply that they were finite. The difficulty was not that nature was evil as
such, but its goods were temporal and limited and in this way they were
inadequate to his rational desire for the eternal and infinite good.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref13&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn13&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref13&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Starnes adds, “Sexual desires were the main thing that held him in the world
and so the forms in which he saw Continence were examples of sexual chastity.
As opposed to nature’s way which urged Augustine to an infinite pursuit of
finite goods, Continence (=the church) invited him to follow a single way to
the infinite good.”&lt;a name=&quot;_ftnref14&quot; href=&quot;#_ftn14&quot; title=&quot;_ftnref14&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
In chapter twelve, soon after hearing the voice a child, Augustine will think
again about Anthony forsaking all earthly pursuits to trust that he will have
treasure in heaven. 
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;Augustine
believed that Christianity is true, but he knew that he had to surrender his
trust just like Anthony and the others in this book of VIII.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Augustine opened the book, and the
chapter in which his eyes fell told him to put on Christ and make no provision
for the flesh. Thus, Augustine finally submitted to the words of continence, to
not stand on his own self, but to cast himself trustfully on God. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn1&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn1&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref1&quot; title=&quot;_ftn1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;Confessions 8.11.27&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn2&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn2&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref2&quot; title=&quot;_ftn2&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; Romans 13:14 cited,
Confessions 8.12.29&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn3&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn3&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref3&quot; title=&quot;_ftn3&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
Confessions 8.11.27&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn4&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn4&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref4&quot; title=&quot;_ftn4&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
Ibid. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn5&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn5&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref5&quot; title=&quot;_ftn5&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
Ibid. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn6&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn6&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref6&quot; title=&quot;_ftn6&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
James O’Donnell, &lt;em&gt;Augustine’s Confessions&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;, Vol. III. &lt;em&gt;Commentary,&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; (Oxford: Clarendon
Press, 1992), 3.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn7&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn7&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref7&quot; title=&quot;_ftn7&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
James O’Donnell, &lt;em&gt;Augustine’s Confessions&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;, Vol. III. &lt;em&gt;Commentary,&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; (Oxford: Clarendon
Press, 1992), 8. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn8&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn8&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref8&quot; title=&quot;_ftn8&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
Confessions, 8.5.2&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn9&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn9&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref9&quot; title=&quot;_ftn9&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
Ibid. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn10&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn10&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref10&quot; title=&quot;_ftn10&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; 1 John 2:15-17 NIV&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn11&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn11&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref11&quot; title=&quot;_ftn11&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; John 3:16 NIV&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn12&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn12&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref12&quot; title=&quot;_ftn12&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; Carl G. Vaught, &lt;em&gt;Encounters
with God in Augustine’s Confessions,&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; Books VII-IX, (Albany: State University of New
York Press, 2004), 84.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div id=&quot;ftn13&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn13&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref13&quot; title=&quot;_ftn13&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; Colin Starnes, &lt;em&gt;Augustine’s
Conversion&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;,
(Waterloo: Wilfried Laurier University Press, 1990), 230-231.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoFootnoteText&quot;&gt;
&lt;a name=&quot;_ftn14&quot; href=&quot;#_ftnref14&quot; title=&quot;_ftn14&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;MsoFootnoteReference&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;[14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt; Starnes, 231.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
Let me just put it out there and take the wacks for being
intolerant; I would be very uneasy having a devout Mormon in the Oval office.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Watching the political wrangling of the pachyderm party and
the various missteps of those hopefuls for nomination to lead the nation, it is
quite obvious that the “religious affiliation” question is a minefield not to
be crossed.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So let me attempt to bravely venture out where one is
forbidden to go and explain my queasiness.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Some religions are &lt;em&gt;nutty&lt;/em&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Scientology comes to mind as a loopy scam. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Some religions are &lt;em&gt;deceptive&lt;/em&gt;,
cloaking their real ideas and agenda in the guise and language of an already
accepted faith. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Gnostics were pretty good at this as I recall. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Some religions &lt;em&gt;require that you suspend your logic&lt;/em&gt; and
reasoning and substitute an emotional embrace instead. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jim Jones created this environment in a deadly manner. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Frankly, Mormonism is all of the above. A remarkably nutty
story that reeks of a scam and insists that in spite of all logical evidence
the contrary, the truth of their story is verified through the warming emotion
of the heart. Then has the gall to wrap the whole kooky enchilada in the
language and events of orthodox Christianity. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yes, there are many wonderful, sweet people who are Mormons.
Yes, yes, they have high moral standards and are clean cut and well scrubbed
and yes, they talk about God and Jesus. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But it is the &lt;em&gt;story&lt;/em&gt;
they have put their trust in that gives me pause and their willingness to dive
headlong into this tall tale with unquestioning hesitation. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For me, the faltering point in giving a thumbs up to a
Mormon in the oval office comes from their gullibility. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So I ask myself, would I trust a person who naively believes
the LDS story to have the discernment to lead a nation? Perhaps an example
would give clarity to my point. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
What if the lead candidate believed in Fairies?&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In the late 1800’s some seemingly smart people such as Sir
Arthur Conan Doyle (author of Sherlock Holmes) bought into a hoax that showed photos
of these wee folks scampering on vegetation.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;(See his still in print book &lt;em&gt;The Coming of Fairies&lt;/em&gt; if you don’t believe me.) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As much as I admire the work of Sir Doyle, the fact that he
believes in Fairies, would, in my mind, disqualify him for being the Prime
Minister of England.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
And yes, I am well aware that any garden-variety atheist
would attempt to turn this argument against me because I subscribe to orthodox
Christianity. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But one has to admit there is quite a difference between
believing in the Gospel story and Fairies.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Or that a young man from upstate New York, already convicted
of defrauding a neighbor by pretending he had the power to find hidden
treasure, was given gold plates with unheard of script and a seer stone to
translate them with.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;(Which unlike
Biblical documents were supposedly and conveniently whisked away by an angel
after completion.) 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Or that the same young man was endowed with insight to
explain what was wrong with the Bible and all other religions as well as vested
with the authority to reinvent Biblical terms and ideas wholesale resulting in
an American version of British Israelism, holy underwear, Masonic like rituals,
sibling rivalry of Satan and Jesus, a new and uncharitable race in ancient
America, bedding other men’s wives and innocent fourteen year old girls and
many other sordid and strange examples. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For my money…and vote, there is too much at stake to risk
standing behind someone who is devoted to the story of Mormonism,
even if he is a nice guy with good morals. 
&lt;/p&gt;
It means that he is susceptible to nonsense, easy to fleece,
gullible. And those are fearful qualities to have in the one at the helm of a
nation.
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
The
Noah factor is when everyone tells you that what you are doing is crazy and
insensible, but you go ahead and do it anyway. If you follow God long enough,
you will probably have to employ the Noah factor at some point. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jesus used the Noah factor when he went to the cross. Noah
used it when he built his ark on dry ground and in a land that had never seen
rain. Ultimately, Jesus and Noah knew something in the depths of their hearts that
eluded all others. Like the couple Karie and I had coffee with this morning.
They adopted a son from the Ukraine. No big deal, lots of people do that—but
how many go through with it when seven days before they are set to get their
son, the wife is diagnosed with an aggressive form of cancer and given months
to live?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Karie and I sat amazed as we heard the story. It&#039;s now five years
after the fact and with the cancer in remission and a 9-year-old adopted son
part of their family. At the time everything and everyone told them not to go through with
it. Both sets of their parents were adamant and a best friend angry. To do this
would be unwise and going against the counsel of their trusted inner-circle. But
like Noah, who was the only one that saw a flood coming coming, our friends saw
and heard something in the quiet of their souls that said, “Go, go get your
boy, the cancer can wait.” 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This is the rub of following Jesus. Yes, we
are called to live and hear in community, but at the end of the day we serve a
personal Jesus; a Jesus who at some point in your life might challenge you to
follow him where no one else is going and when everyone else sees it a
different way.
&lt;/p&gt;
This is faith you have signed up for, and unlike a good
business plan, faith does not always pencil out.
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Sometimes I struggle with wanting to succeed. For some
reason my Christian experience has programmed me to think that wanting to
succeed in one area or another is a form of pride. A friend of mine recently
challenged me on this by saying, “Okay, so God wants you to hope everything you
do sucks?”
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Over the years I have received all sorts of differing
counsel on this. My faith-camp friends have told me to just let God do
everything. If God is on it, nothing can stop it from happening. 
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Usually a few days after I have followed the faith-camps
advice and released all of my desire to see the things I create find success or
an audience, I run into someone from camp-free-will. These are your friends
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your stuff or message out there. 
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Recently, a very successful recording artist friend said
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see it. You need to market your brand.”
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And that’s one of the problems right there. My friend is a
legitimate rock star. He is supposed to get $600 haircuts, have a promotional
team and care about chart success. Me on the other hand, I’m a pastor. We are
called to enjoy dry toast and modest cars. Success and achievement need be
shunned and avoided like the plague.
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The more I have thought about it, the more I realize that I
will never find the balance. My forty-two years have shown me that my life is a
pendulum that only finds balance in the brief moments I am swinging from one
extreme to the other. One minute I am giving it all to God, the next I am
grasping my desires like Gollum with a slippery fish.
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For me, the answer has come in being willing to walk. Here’s
what I mean. Back in the 90’s there was a movie called Heat. It was a story
about thieves. The tension of the movie was in the fact that everyone in the
crew needed to be willing drop everything and walk if the heat was on. Nothing
was as important as freedom.
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The same is true for our dreams and pursuits in this life. 
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Whether you use a faith or faith and friction model to pursue your
dreams and desires is not as important as your willingness to drop them and
walk at any moment. If God says its done, its done and you walk. 
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Here’s the point. There is no pride in wanting your stuff to
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
I love the Bible story of the woman who had been bleeding
for twelve years. She’s one of my heroes. Jesus was leaving the area and walked
by her. She was about to miss her opportunity but in desperation she reached
out and touched the hem of His cloak, thinking to herself, “If I can just touch
his clothes, I will get well.”
&lt;/p&gt;
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She didn’t whine, “I guess I wasn’t one of the chosen ones,”
and give up on her chance to meet with God.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Nope. She reached out and grabbed Him before He left her.
She seized her opportunity.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
It gets better. He stops and turns around and then looks at
her, “Do not to worry! You are well now because of your faith.”
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
There are times it feels as if I’m drowning in life and that
God is passing me by, as if He’s moving on to more important things. However,
this story models to me the importance of reaching out and grabbing for God –
even if it requires being drastic. When we do – He stops and we are healed.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
A few months ago I was in one of those spiritual ruts when I
read of an opportunity to be a blogger for the 2011 Women of Faith – Over the
Top conference. My heart was moved and felt led to grab for it. I wanted a
chunk of time to reconnect with God.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
When I received the email accepting me as a blogger, it felt
as if God had stopped and acknowledged my desire to be refreshed spiritually –
as if He were looking at me.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Okay – it may seem silly to compare a miraculous healing to
a chance to go to a conference but I do need a form of healing. I need one in
my heart and, for me, conferences like Women of Faith provide an opportunity
for us to be touched and encouraged by God in our own personal way. 
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Step
out of the chaos. &lt;/strong&gt;I’m the first to admit that I’m easily distracted.
Leaving my area puts me in a mindset where I can forget the “to do” list and
focus on God, myself and the person(s) that I’m with. Long weekend trips also
allow me to hit the “refresh” button and the chaos seems calmer when I return.
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;strong&gt;God
hangs where there is praise. &lt;/strong&gt;Okay Mandisa…Selah!!! The Bible tells us that
God inhabits the praises of His people. I want to drink in His presence because
I’m dying of thirst at the moment. Praising Him with thousands of others, led
by such beautiful voices – my soul longs for this opportunity.
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;3.&lt;span style=&quot;font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;   
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Laugh
and learn. &lt;/strong&gt;Lisa Whelchel, Patsy Clairmont, Margaret Feinberg…are some of
the ladies who will be sharing their wisdom during the weekend. When your life
and work revolve around ministry, there’s usually little time to be fed –
laughing at their stories and learning from them.
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&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;4.&lt;span style=&quot;font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;   
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bonding.&lt;/strong&gt;
My sister-in-law and I have been trying to do a “gals weekend” for over a year
now. When we learned of the conference we immediately booked flights and hotel.
A weekend to share meals, quality and quantity time bonds and I’m excited to
have this time with her.
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I look forward to sharing more about it after we attend the
Seattle conference at the end of October!
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How do you find God in the midst of life’s dry times?
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What are ways you reach out to grab Him?
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 <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bakerpublishinggroup.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=0477683E4046471488BD7BAC8DCFB004&amp;amp;nm=&amp;amp;type=PubCom&amp;amp;mod=PubComProductCatalog&amp;amp;mid=BF1316AF9E334B7BA1C33CB61CF48A4E&amp;amp;tier=3&amp;amp;id=B6674144695946A6B277FF6C7127AB04&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;You Lost Me&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by David Kinnaman is the book I have been waiting for (Baker, 2011). I found myself reading it saying, “Yes, Yes, YES!” There has been much talk recently about the phenomena of young people disengaging the church when they leave high school, but now we have some substantive data as to why this is happening and what we can do about it. Kinnaman is the president of the Barna Research Group, so he backs up everything he says with research.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to You Lost Me, 59% of young people with a Christian background report they have dropped out of the church after going regularly. Interestingly, Kinnaman notes that they are not necessarily leaving the faith. In fact, he says, “Most young Christians are struggling less with their faith in Christ than with their experience of church” (27). While historically young people often return to the church when they have kids, the new social and spiritual realities of this generation makes it less likely they will come back in the same numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kinnaman notes three key realities that describe this generation. First, access to information. This generation has unlimited access to non-biblical worldviews at their fingertips, which has caused many to question the nature of truth. For better or worse, they largely perceive the world through screens. It invites non-linear thinking and it empowers them as content-participants not just consumers of media.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, this generation is relationally alienated. In the 1960s only 5 percent of live births were to unwed mothers. Now that percentage is 42. Youth are maturing later and few churches today are equipped to minister to them. According to Kinnaman, “….relational alienation is one of the defining features of this generation” (45).&lt;br /&gt;
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Third, this new generation is deeply skeptical of authority. This may sound familiar, but Kinnaman notes how the cultural structures that enabled faith—school, media, community, and stable family structure—are no longer available to the church. Everybody has an opinion so it is hard to know who is trustworthy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the most helpful features of You Lost Me, was the six top reasons Kinnaman cited for why students leave the faith. Here they are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1) Overprotective—Young people have been so overprotected by our “helicopter” culture, that many seek risks outside traditional boundaries including drugs, pornography, and extreme thrill seeking. Kinnaman says parents and youth workers should allow young people to take bigger risks.&lt;br /&gt;
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(2) Shallow—Not surprisingly, research shows that young people do not have a deep understanding of their faith. Yet the shallowness of faith is not restricted just to youth, but among all adults. Kinnaman says that our industrialized, program-driven ministry approach has failed to produce deeper disciples. He says, “We need to change from an industrialized, mass-production, public-education approach and embrace the messy adventure of relationship.&lt;br /&gt;
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(3) Antiscience—More than 50% of churchgoing youth want a career in a science-related field. Yet only 1% of youth pastors report addressing a scientific issue in the past year. Kinnaman wonders how we can prepare a generation to follow Jesus in our science-dominated culture when only 1 in 100 youth workers are even talking about it.&lt;br /&gt;
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(4) Repressive—The truth is that 4 out of 5 evangelicals 18-29 have had sex. The problem is that sex in our culture defines individualism: Sex is about me. Kinnaman notes that Christian teens have more conservative behavior than others but not different behavior. He is concerned that abstinence talks are&lt;br /&gt;
too focused on individual benefits rather than the teaching that sex is about selflessness.&lt;br /&gt;
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(5) Exclusive—This generation tends to read the Bible through a pluralistic lens. They tend to base their morality on what seems fair-minded, loyal, and acceptable to their friends. They have more non-Christian friends than previous generations as well as relationships with people of differing sexual&lt;br /&gt;
orientations. These relationships inform their approach to truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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(6) Doubtless—According to Kinnaman, “Doubt is a significant reason young adults disengage from the church” (187). There is both intellectual and emotional doubt that plague young people. This is why Kinnaman says our teaching ought to be more Socratic and process-oriented, allowing kids to&lt;br /&gt;
live with their questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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What I appreciated most about You Lost Me, is the balance Kinnaman brings. He recognizes that the core issues of why kids are disengaging are both truth-related and relational. He says, “I think the next generation’s disconnection stems ultimately from the failure of the church to impart Christianity as a comprehensive way of understanding reality and living fully in today’s culture” (114).&lt;br /&gt;
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We have failed to help people develop a biblical worldview. Kinnaman says, “It is a modern tragedy. Despite years of church-based experiences and countless hours of Bible-centered teaching, millions of next generation Christians have no idea that their faith connects to their life’s work” (207).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But Kinnaman also emphasized the importance of mentoring this generation. Sadly, a majority of the youth he interviewed reported never having an adult friend other than their parents. More than 80% never had a mentor. Kinnaman says truth must be passed relationally to the next generation through the same discipleship model of Jesus. Amen.
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 <description>Have you noticed that the Pumpkin Spice Latte returned to
Starbucks this past week? 
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Fall may have arrived in some parts of the country,
but it still seems far off here in Orange County, California. I have to admit, I
enjoy the return of the Pumpkin Spice Latte each fall whether the leaves change
or not. In fact, one day this week I woke up thinking about the delightful
latte and planned out my day around when I would get one before I even got out
of bed. Clearly I was excited about the latte’s grand return! 
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The excitement got to my head though in unexpected ways. I started
thinking about what might happen if I woke up anticipating serving others each day with
the same excitement I had over a cup of pumpkin goodness? Or what my day
might look like if I planned it around ways I could encourage my co-workers or be
salt and light in a dry and dark world? Here’s the kicker thought I had that
day: what would my life look like if every day I woke up thinking that today I
would meet Jesus?! 
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Of course I didn’t expect to ponder such heavy thoughts
while in route to a cup of sweet pumpkin joy. But then again, I have, as of
late, become more and more accepting of expecting only the unexpected in life.
My thoughts on this particular day were no exception. Nor do I put it past God
to invade my thoughts of a heavenly pumpkin beverage with thoughts of heaven
itself. I absolutely believe God cares about every thought or idea I have and can influence them all in such a way that will inevitably bring me closer to him.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So after some thought on this (by this
post so far you’d think all I do is sit around and think and drink latte&#039;s!), I realized why I
may have been thinking this way.
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For about the past 10 years or so, my grandpa has been
waiting (impatiently most days) to go home to Jesus. My grandma passed away as
Haiti was shaking into a pile of rubble on January 12, 2010 and honestly, my grandpa wanted his turn to
meet the King of Kings too. His prayers were answered just a few weeks ago.
While taking an afternoon nap in his home, Jesus came and carried him away.
Although my grandpa prayed for heaven just about every day,  Jesus said we
must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not
expect him.  Our days are literally numbered and only God
knows our number.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;
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Hebrews 10:22 says, let us draw near to God with
a sincere heart and with the full &lt;strong&gt;assurance&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal&quot;&gt; that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;faith&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal&quot;&gt; brings,
having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having
our bodies washed with pure water. &lt;/span&gt;
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My grandpa had assurance of his faith in Jesus and because
of that assurance he didn’t fear death at all. In fact, he welcomed it towards
the end of his life. Sure, I’m not 89 years old like my grandpa was when he
passed last month, but what if I woke every day hoping to walk with Jesus
through the coffee fields that I’m pretty sure I’ll maintain in heaven? I might
be bold with my faith without the surface layer
insecurities that so many times hold me back. I might offer the hungry person on the
street corner whatever snacks I’m hording around in my purse. I might say I’ll
pray for a friend and then actually pray for them in that moment. I might stop
and talk to a neighbor instead of quickly passing by without even a hello. I
might spend more time with the children in my life more and less time worrying
about myself. 
&lt;/p&gt;
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It’s difficult though isn’t it? All of those things are easy
to say now but come tomorrow morning am I really going to feel that way and
live my life like Jesus might just show up in person? If I’m honest, maybe for
a day or two before I revert back to a bunch of ‘me’ thinking throughout my
days. I live in a now and a not yet state of mind daily. Meaning, I am not walking in my coffee field with Jesus yet. I’m living in a crowded
and lonely county in Ca that desperately needs Jesus &lt;em&gt;and &lt;/em&gt;I live with sweet
assurance of faith that I will one day be in the coffee field. It’s like I’m
drinking the pumpkin latte but it&#039;s difficult to see the fall season that it represents? A little like faith is evidence of what is unseen. Not
actually seeing the evidence of fall won’t keep me from drinking in the latte though.
I’m not with Jesus yet, but I won’t let that stop me from hoping and eagerly
waiting his return to reunite me with him. I won’t stop seeking his face and
taking in his word and truths even on those days when life just looks and feels icky. And as I sip on tomorrow’s latte, I’ll be reminded that today I ought
live my life reflecting the risen Lord I serve with bold assurance of faith in the risen Christ Jesus. 
&lt;/p&gt;
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What joys in this life or in the life to come do you look forward
to each day?  
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I recently did this video interview on the role of Apologetics in our world, and how I approach this important discipline. Enjoy!
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