If you have a few moments, I'd appreciate your feedback: If Jesus were sleeping in your boat, and "a furious storm came up and the waves [were breaking] over the boat, so that is was nearly swamped," would you wake Jesus up? Why or why not? At first glance, the question may seem ridiculous, but I've been stuck on this passage (Mark 4.35-41) anew for several days. Two thoughts: 1. When the disciples woke Jesus up, they said, "Teacher, don't you care if we drown?" They obviously woke him up for their benefit, not his. 2. After Jesus calmed the storm, the disciples said, "Who is this? Even the wind and the waves obey him!" They did not comprehend that Jesus was the Son of God yet. They had never seen Jesus take authority over the natural elements. I suggest that they didn't wake Jesus up in the hope that he would utter, "Be still!"
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I would wake him up! When I am scared I want comfort and support. My hope would be that he would say something to calm my fear. I want to hear your message when you finish it. Your books have blessed me more than I could ever express with words. One day I will be sharing my story! Blessing to you and your family!
Thank you so much for the feedback and for your encouraging words Jessica!
Hindsight being 20/20 I like to think I would not have woken Jesus up. I might have been prone to go and get as close as possible to Him without disturbing Him though! Jesus had already said that they were going to the other side and faith in the knowledge that He cannot fail would have led me to just leave Him be. If I was armed only with the knowledge and experience that the disciples had at the time a seemingly fatal storm blew in I would almost assuredly have rushed to the sleeping God-man--exhausted or no!
Nick, love that thought: "get as close as possible to Him..."
Thank you,
alicia
i already left everything (including my own boat, nets... my life as a fisherman) to go with this man; i heard something in his voice that day that spoke straight to my soul.
i never ever thought someone could ever really know me, let alone overwhelm my heart with such powerful love---and by speaking a mere couple of words; "follow me," he'd said. all i could do was lay it all down and go with him.
now this storm. it's a killer. i've seen waves like this before. does he expect me to use my knowledge of the sea and just survive, if possible, however i can? what's he doing? how tired can a person be to stay asleep when the boat's rocking and rolling like this and water's pouring in? i keep looking in on him sleeping, and i see the same thing while he sleeps that i saw and heard the day he called me: the strength, the peace, the authority ... and whatever else it is that keeps pulling me towards him.
what do i have to lose? i knew such giant squalls could arise at any time during my work as a fisherman, yet i risked my life then---as a man of the sea. now that i've left that life and work behind to be with the teacher (who's more than a teacher, i'm pretty sure!), can i do less?
so, would he be upset with me if i crawled back to the stern and lay down next to him?
[i'd like to think i'd choose to be with Jesus, sink or swim or otherwise. let him alone, (don't awaken him), he knows something i don't. obviously, Jesus expected more, saw more in the disciples than they saw or believed in themselves. one translation (The Message) says he "reprimanded the disciples: 'Why are you such cowards? Don't you have any faith at all?'" i asked my wife just the other night about this passage: "what did Jesus expect them to do? why reprimand them in such harsh conditions, unless he felt they should know better---somehow???]
thanks for the invite to comment.
Wow--thanks so much for your response. Your words bring the passage into the present. And your conclusion, "I'd choose to be with Jesus, sink or swim or otherwise," is stirring. Thanks Bob!
i can be more direct, more honest. in fact, a "hurricane" swept over my family nearly seven years ago. when it hit (in the form of assaults, temptations, failures, much striving) i reacted desperately! like the sailors in another boat story in the scriptures, i threw things over-board, dropped anchors, raised other sails, etc., etc. panicked; i wondered about and cried out for God, but didn't really humble myself in the midst of all of the anxiety, anger, and other passionate reactions. eventually, the Lord did get a hold of my heart--- it was worship [where i risk everything, daily placing my life on his altar] that he wanted all along. i had not been in a place where worship [absolute trust] spontaneously was happening. the hurricane and its effects caused me to one day simply fall on my face---caving in to the presence of the Living God. we're better than okay now. but it had been a true storm and we were devastated for a while. the storm was a roundabout way to teach us who he is, and who he intended to be, in relationship with us. [this is not exactly everyone's story; thank the Lord. i'll keep my responses shorted next time.]
Bob, thank you so much for some of the back story--both the substance and the vulnerability it reveals.
I'm reminded of Lewis' Screwtape Letters in which the elder demon advices his mentoree demon (my memory may be rusty :-), "Do not be deceived, Wormwood. Our cause is never more in danger than when a human, no longer seeing but still believing, looks round about a universe in which every trace of God has vanished, asks, 'Why have I been forsaken?!' and yet still obeys."
We just read this story in my 2- and 3-year old class on Sunday. I did find myself wondering how I would answer should any of the young hearts ask me why Jesus was sleeping - that's the part of the story that usually bends my mind. I just can't imagine sleeping peacefully whilst being rocked around and sloshed upon. In any case, I see your point and agree that the disciples did not wake him in hopes that he would calm the storm. I think that yes, in their situation, I would wake him up so that he would have a fighting chance to survive in case the boat got tipped over. I'm thankful for the advantage of knowing the end of the story...but I still think if I find Jesus asleep in the middle of my storm, I will have to overcome my perception of that seeming lack of concern before I'm able to wake him and receive His peace.
Thank you for your thoughts Brenda!
So in the intervening days, I experienced a little storm - albeit a very quick one. I fell down a set of deck steps (about 12) and splayed out on the landing. As I fell, I was able to tell myself to 'roll with it' - not sure if that was really helpful or not, but it was a very clear thought. Then as I lay there sort of whimpering and trying to feel out if anything was broken, I found myself just thanking Jesus over and over, with the last statement being, "Thank you Jesus for saving my soul." I keep kind of laughing at that now, but at that moment before I could even get up and survey 'the damage', that was what bubbled out. So, in this case, I don't think Jesus was asleep at all. I think he helped me roll, kept me from breaking any bones, and hovered over me with his saving power.
i love it when who we really are (on the interior) leaks out through the "cracks" (or crack-ups!) we experience in an ordinary day! hilarious, but completely understandable.
I like many others, would like to think I would not have awakened him. I'd like to think the presence of the Son of God would be enough. But as of just last night, a great storm regarding one of my children swept over my life and I found myself crying out to the Lord to speak to me. I, unlike the disciples, have him living within me and I have His wonderful word to guide me and yet, I was afraid. A darkness settled over me and I just wanted Jesus to be near. The disciples, not having what I do and yet knowing Jesus was different, wanted Him to be awake to comfort them. Now, I have to wonder if Jesus is speaking to me through this and telling me He wants me to trust Him no matter how dark the night or how high the waves roll because He neither slumbers nor sleeps as in those days as a man.
Mary, thank you for sharing in the midst of your storm. I am praying for you today that God's voice would carry peace to your mind and hope to your soul while you wait for the storm to clear.
I had to skip what the others have said so my ideas didn't get skewed by theirs! :)
I think I would have waited and worried - wondering how long I should let Him sleep. I would have probably paced back and forth by Him, hoping He would awaken and make everything all right, but not with me as the instigator. I would have felt guilty for wanting to bother Him, and yet not feel safe anywhere but near Him. Even asleep, there had to have such power in HIs presence.
I sure feel it when I'm sleeping.
Thank you Tabby. I could see someone pacing near Jesus watching his face for signs of wakefulness. The clock ticks so loudly when I'm "waiting" for Jesus' words in the midst of a crisis.
I'd wake him up... Hold Him so tight and take advantage of Him telling me, "its gonna be alright". You know in life when you go through storms and you call and call and you can't hear Him or feel Him. If He was right there, i'd smile coz i'd be assured He's gonna take control!
Thank you Munanie! The other day my son and I were talking about James as a brother of Jesus. Jonathan said, "Really? Jesus was his big brother?!" "Yep," I replied. Then I asked, "What do you think it would be like to have Jesus for a big brother?"
Jona thought for a bit and then said, "Oh, I'd love him and hug him so, so, so very much!!"
Absolutely, I would wake Him!
If I am a seasoned fisherman, I know when the storm is more than I could handle... "great danger." I would go to the One who had the power to do something about it. Isn't that what the Lord wants us to do even today? For we are told in Psalm 121:3 "He will not let your foot slip—he who watches over you will not slumber."
Jesus rebuked the "wind and raging waters" not the disciples. He didn't say, "Why did you wake me?" He used it as an opportunity to show them His power and their lack of faith. Perhaps as the man born blind, "this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life."
I think... He wants us to wake Him. Not to sit and wait out the storm on our own wondering when it will end... but to trust Him enough to take even the darkest storms to Him.
Thank you Sheri for taking the time to comment, and for the beautiful boldness to come near to God that I hear in your words!
I really see your way of thinking here, although for me I think a little differently.
I would hope that my response would be to do as Jesus did. To follow His lead. I would be inclined to deal with the situation in the same way He did even if it meant doing it afraid. I would lay next to Him, close my eyes and 'try' to sleep! (Then hope I'm doing the right thing! - Well no one's perfect!)
But so far I think there are two things to learn from that story, a) yes it's good to ask for help; and b) it is also good to have so much trust that even if the world was falling apart around us we can sleep as peacefully as babies who know they are safe in the loving hands of their Father.
Praise be to God for being the best Dad there is :-D x
Yes, I would have awaken him. He is a friend, I would not want him harmed by the storm. I would most likely apologize to him as he woke up - knowing he was in a deep sleep (and obviously very tired to not naturally wake on his own), but quickly explain the danger surrounding the boat and that I would want him safe during the storm.
thank you for taking the time to respond
alicia
in the thick of a furious storm which king herod was raising (having already murdered james), a more mature peter sleeps like a baby while chained in jail to two guards and surrounded by a ton of others (guards). he wasn't pacing the floors in panic, wasn't writing a final letter to his wife (as far as we know), wasn't concentrating on a last meal. wasn't silently crying for help. something else was going on. could it be the same thing that was going on with Jesus, who also slept once during a storm? (absolute trust in the Father???)
wow-thank you for the parallel! That contrast is rich.
I think I would've woken Him up. When there's a crisis and I'm running around trying to deal with it, I get annoyed at anyone who's not running around and trying to deal with it too. It seems to me like this is what the disciples were feeling. When you look at the comment "don't you care if we drown?!" it almost seems like they are thinking that perhaps Jesus isn't really sleeping -- like He's resting and letting them do all the work, but just laying there and not bothering to get up and help. Perhaps fluttering His eyes open once in a while and then just trying to drift back into oblivion. Of course, that's speculation, but I think it's possible -- He was sleeping, but woke up from the storm and the commotion and then just laid there trying to get some rest, waiting for them to ask for help or involve Him in some way? Waiting for Father God to tell Him to intervene?
"Don't you care if we drown?!" does sound like, "A little HELP would be appreciated!!" :-) Thanks for this perspective Annie.
Years ago on a multi-family houseboat vacation on Lake Powell (Colorado River), we experienced a most unusual and violent storm. We were in one of the "finger" waterways called the Escalente. High vertical cliffs which are amazingly beautiful are a nightmare with screaming, unpredictable winds during a storm. When it began in the late afternoon we lost towels, beach chairs, skis, life jackets, oars, and even a child was blown off one boat. As the storm continued through the night we were being blown into other boats as well as into the cliffs. Fearing damage to the boat we had our engines going to counteract the force of the wind. The men were constantly out trying to secure the taut, straining lines to boulders. Evey adult and child was awake with adrenalin pumping...except our six year old, Greg. He slept through the whole episode on the engine room floor. Stepping over him, we were careful not to wake him--we certainly didn't need one more terrified child to add to the mix.
This colored my thoughts as I considered your question. I most certainly would have awakened Jesus, "my curiously untraditional, spiritual teacher" and friend. There would have been no thought of my being out of line and certainly none of adding to the fear on the boat. I would have wanted him to join with us--to add his ablities and insight to those of our very frantic crew, especially since he had proven to be rich in spiritual insight and wise in every way. I would have been so grateful he was present.
Quite a vacation! Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Pam.
I wrote this last month while considering the same passage - not quite the answer to your question, but...
V 38 – “don’t you care if we drown?” It’s interesting that the human reaction is attack the person – as soon as there was a problem, which was circumstantial (i.e. Jesus had not created the storm, that was force of nature). However, the disciples immediately attacked Jesus’ compassion, His character… “don’t you care?” Jesus did not enter into a debate with them, he dealt with the circumstance and solved the problem (calmed the storm), then He found a lesson for them and spoke to them about it (where is your faith?).
How often we as leaders are attacked, in fact I recall Moses went through the same thing. It is the human condition to want to blame someone, to attack. Perhaps in the past I was too quick to defend myself or others? Perhaps I was not able to look at the problem and solve it – then address the speakers? How can we do this better? How can I do this better?
great insights, angel. Thank you so much for your post.
here's something: Jesus for thirty years practiced listening to the voice of his Father; practiced obedient-responsiveness to the Holy Spirit. he's the teacher now. sleeping on the boat, he's at peace in the core of his being, in his spirit. he's learned who he is, why he is, and where he's going. nothing happens to him accidentally; everything is ordered by the Father. his spirit is calm, and so his mind and body, rightfully, follow what's in his spirit; he lays them down on a leather cushion and sleeps because in his spirit he's quiet. (but his spirit is aware. i don't think the spirit really needs sleep. have to be careful here, though.) the disciples are not calm in their spirits; at the core of their beings they are scared spit-less. they're just beginning to walk this walk of obedience. they're following Jesus at a certain level but aren't mature yet. the storm purposefully shakes their world; turns everything upside down. their minds (what you see is what you get!) and bodies (emotions and reasoning capacities) still govern their actions, while their spirits are inactive. they're terrified. like the storm---chaos rages in them.
they didn't really need to wake Jesus, what he was doing (sleeping) was already "shouting at them." this was teaching in the making. there was something to learn here. Jesus wasn't teaching an untried theory. he was showing his followers how to be. that it was right and possible to quietly trust during a violent threatening storm. (from now on you're children of an invisible Kingdom, the Kingdom of God, the Maker of everything.) he knew they'd fail. that was at least part of the lesson: what you see and feel, your minds and bodies aren't the barometers of God-reality. later on, possibly one of the questions might have been: "Master, how could you honestly sleep while we, who were "awake" were nearly killed!" (thus the lesson... he's the last Adam, the first of a new humanity! it's a new ball game for the disciples and for us.))
it's early morning, couldn't sleep. thought i'd send these thoughts while they're hot. there is mystery contained in the story. the Lord has the last word, of course. the mystery is contained (and solved) in Christ's person, our life-long love and lesson.
[alicia, in my last comment, i realize (in re-reading it) that i'm missing the intent of your "survey." you didn't really ask for an exposition (of sorts). hope my earlier responses were closer to what you hoped for.]
Bob, your comments are rich...keep them coming :-)
Son of Man lies still, silently on a cushion of leather. he's sleeping peacefully. the sea is having fits, and the disciples are hanging on for dear life; they're terrified by the dimensions of the sea-storm. Jesus let go of his life years ago, so that one day, the true life of God, the Father, would easily flow out of him. no secret loves for him; no false securities.
so while sleeping, as the disciples ride the ride of apparent drowning and death, it could have been that the Son of Man also was riding a ride: his life was grounded once and for all in the love of the Father (even to the point of the Father prying the skies open and telling him directly, "you are my Son, the One i love", in so many words.) now, while asleep, in the middle of a dark, seemingly endless water world, Jesus' heart and spirit expand with an impossible to calculate width of the Father's love and presence; the boat rises on swells that project it far up into the blackness of night, high above the sea's normal surface on a sunny day, and Jesus in his spirit soars high, high into the everlasting bosom of God, no end in sight. the boat plummets hard back down, crashes deep into an enormous valley of black sea---the disciples are certain they're going to die; they only tighten their grips wherever they can. in the back of the boat, in the stern, the Son of Man, still sleeps. but inside, his heart is freshly awakened, alerted, and affirmed by how far down the Father's love would one day descend, and had already (in sending him!) into valley of a decaying world, even into the twisted and blackened gullies in the hearts of people everywhere.
the so-called real boat full of flesh and blood followers of Jesus, taking them on the "apparent" ride of their lives, really turns out to be a metaphor of the God-world (ultimate reality) wherein Jesus is taking, in the Spirit, a real ride, always, with the Father. [see Ephesians 3:17-19]
a good question may have been, "Jesus... you were sleeping hard; we had to wake you up! You must've been dreaming! (pause) Were you... dreaming... Master?"
Yes, I'd wake Him up. When a child has a bad dream, they run to mom & dad for reassurance that, yes, it is okay. It is just a dream. Even with Jesus asleep in the back of the boat, I'd run to Him and ask for His reassurance that, yes, it is okay. It is just a storm.
Thank you Lynette for taking the time to respond--my kids remind me of this truth several times a week :-) And each time, I stroke their hair, kiss their forehead, and assure them of my presence.
Dear "guest anonymous," BEAUTIFUL. Perhaps you should be writing a book...?
I second Alicia's comment - beautiful guest anonymous!
As I've meditated on this passage in the past few months of my own storm I realized that I was frantically doing what any one would do in a storm...anything and everything I could think of! Hollywood wouldn't make a movie called, The Perfect Storm, where all the characters simply slept. I found myself intrigued by Jesus response and have kept asking, "What does he know about the Father that I don't know?" Finally, deep in my soul I realized that there are things out of my control and that any action I take has NO effect on the outcome. It sounds obvious but, until a storm hits one of your kids and fear causes you to forget that their choices are out of your control. I am learning to lay down beside Jesus and ask the Father to walk with my child. Someday, I hope to fall asleep!
Thank you Dawnita!
What a great question. I felt impressed to respond with the thought that the person in the boat is my Pastor.
My first response is "of course I would wake Him up. He can help. He must know some kind of prayer that will calm this whole thing." Then, I had to be honest. I am more apt to be strong and say "Let the man sleep. He is tired and has been so busy helping others that we need to just let him rest. I can fingure this out on my own." He is not the first person I run to all the time. So often I run to myself first. "I should be able to handle this myself, I should be strong enough to figure this out without his help, and I don't see the need of stirring Him when I ought to be able, by now, to figure out the right thing to do." I think it's called 'Pride.'
I have learned over the years that I do, indeed, need the "wise" counsel that Psalms speaks of. I can't say that I have mastered the art of stirring a good friend in the moments that I really need them, I still like to think I can get this thing figured out by myself, but I have learned that with each storm, the quicker I went to someone for help, the quicker I got thorugh the storm and with minimal damage!
On a personal note- Alicia, I have enjoyed your teaching for many years now. Thank you for your honesty, your integrity, and your genuine love of the Lord. It is so refreshing.
Recently my family and I moved from Arizona (after 20+ years) to Missouri. Before I left my dear Girl friends blessed me with a going away gift- copies of your books, cd's, and a shirt, most signed by you. I have been so blessed this past year with such a special gift. These same ladies called me to inform me that you will be the speaker in September at the Women's Retreat in Prescott. I signed up immediatley.
I will be flying out to be refreshed in the Lord and to hear what He has to say through you! I am looking forward to getting to know Him a bit better and to hearing your whimsical stories as well. God bless and keep you and your family.
Great to have met you in Prescott, Sandy! And thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts.
I would absolutely have gotten him up - He's the most important part of the friend group. In times of trouble, I always want my friend group - and I would never have let him go down with the ship. I think He did it to awaken their minds to new possibilities in the spiritual world - "God with us" is pretty amazing! But I also think He knew that,in their love for Him, they would wake him up to share their last moments, or to hope that He could pull a rabbit of some sort of His hat. So much more than a rabbit, eh?
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I've thought on this survey question and in my heart and soul I know that if I were in a boat with Jesus and a fierce storm came howling and rattling the boat, I would not wake up Jesus. I thought of my mother who worked very hard in my younger years and there were times I wanted to talk or go some place with her, but I knew she was tired and was happier to know she was resting. It was my way to give something back to her. Had I walked with Jesus as the disciples did, and had I seen the miracles he performed and how he tirelessly preached an taught the multitudes, I would know that I could always turn to him, trust and be safe with him. Jesus said if you knew him, you knew his Father and vice versa. I would trust the winds and the waves with him present beside me, knowing he wouldn't allow anything to happen to me unless it was his Father's will. If I were in a boat with Jesus, I would rather sit and watch him as he is sleeping, to look upon his face and brow and wonder how he could suffer so much at the hands of the crowds. I would like to put a clean, dry wrap around his shoulders to give him some warmth and comfort. I think I would know - it was a special few moments that I could spend with my teacher, who must also be trusting in me.
Thank you Diana, for your thoughts. I so appreciate the time you've taken to process the question.
I would remember and trust in his words!
We shouldn't forget, what He said to the disciples in first: "Let us go over to THE OTHER SIDE." (Mk 4:35). The destination was THE OTHER SIDE, because the work was unfinished. They fulfilled Father's plan.
Thanks so much, John, for taking the time to share your thoughts!