I had always heard that Mark Driscoll liked to talk about sex. And cuss. And when I sat in on a service last November at the Ballard campus of Mars Hill Church where he pastors, the guy did not disappoint (well, he didn’t cuss per se… but he did say vulva).
Now, let me preface this by saying that I have a lot of respect for Mark Driscoll. I think that he’s doing great things for the church in Seattle, and deep down—beneath the frat guy, “Jesus was not a limp-wrist hippie in a dress!” veneer—he’s a caring, Godly person. But man oh man does he like sex: having it with his wife, talking about it, and getting as many young married hipsters in his church to have it daily.
In a recent New York Times article about Mark Driscoll, writer Molly Worthen opens with a discussion of Driscoll’s sex-heavy rhetoric:
Mark Driscoll’s sermons are mostly too racy to post on GodTube, the evangelical Christian “family friendly” video-posting Web site. With titles like “Biblical Oral Sex” and “Pleasuring Your Spouse,” his clips do not stand a chance against the site’s content filters. …An “Under 17 Requires Adult Permission” warning flashes before the video cuts to evening services at Mars Hill, where an anonymous audience member has just text-messaged a question to the screen onstage: “Pastor Mark, is masturbation a valid form of birth control?”
Driscoll doesn’t miss a beat: “I had one guy quote Ecclesiastes 9:10, which says, ‘Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might.’ ” The audience bursts out laughing. Next Pastor Mark is warning them about lust and exalting the confines of marriage, one hand jammed in his jeans pocket while the other waves his Bible. Even the skeptical viewer must admit that whatever Driscoll’s opinion of certain recreational activities, he has the coolest style and foulest mouth of any preacher you’ve ever seen.
I can verify that this description is completely accurate, having seen Driscoll in full-on sex-talk mode at a November service in his church. I was lucky enough to be there during a series on Song of Solomon called “The Peasant Princess,” on the night when Driscoll was preaching on the “Dance of Mahanaim” passage of Song of Solomon (6:11-7:10)—a passage which Driscoll describes as “an ancient striptease.”
Before he began his sermon, Driscoll noted that this was “one of the steamiest passages in the entire Bible” and urged all young children to immediately leave. He then proceeded to elaborate in great detail on the Dance of Mahanaim, talking about what each of the sexually suggestive metaphors meant, etc. Eventually he came to his point: that this passage of scripture was a call for wives to be “visually generous” to their husbands. They should keep the lights on in sex. Walk around the house topless. Things like that.
“The body is the greatest gift a wife can give,” said Driscoll.
A good marriage should be sexually open, with both husband and wife totally willing to do whatever pleases the other—whether it means getting your hair cut “just how s/he likes it” or being willing to do weird fetishy things to please your spouse.
At the end, Driscoll brought his wife out on stage (a little awkward, given the fact that he’d just been telling us about how great she was in bed), and the two of them answered questions that the audience had texted in during the service. One of the questions was about the biblical merits of married couples making homemade sex tapes, to which the Driscolls responded with coy looks at one another and a “yeah, we’ve done it” moment of awkward laughter.
All of it is well and good, I suppose. I do think sex is a wonderful thing for married people—and that they should be doing it freely and often. But here’s my problem: what are all the single people in the audience (and there looked to be a lot of them) suppose to do with this???
Clearly Driscoll’s aim is to get the young Christians in his church married off asap, so this whole “I’m single!” thing doesn’t pose too many problems. Friends of mine who attend or have attended the church confirm this. To be married at Mars Hill is the goal; to be single is to be, well, kinda shunned. In a recent interview with ABC, Driscoll said that at Mars Hill, “We encourage our people to get married and enjoy one another.” Fantastic. But what about the people who stay single well into their twenties, thirties, and beyond? What about the people who feel called to singleness?
From my vantage point—as a 26 year old, unmarried male—Driscoll’s “sex is grrrrrrrreat for married people!” emphasis is more than a little unhelpful. Here’s what it does: it alienates single people and makes them feel like they haven’t lived or won’t live until they get married. It leaves no room for any “satisfied single person identity.” And—most obviously and unforgivably—it makes no attempt to articulate a cogent and Christian sexual ethic for singles. What are we singles supposed to do with our sexual frustration when we get more scandalous and visceral images of sex in a church service than we do from a week’s worth of MTV?
It seems to me that if Mark Driscoll and preachers like him want to talk about sex so frankly and frequently in their churches, they must at least be willing to talk as enthusiastically about the merits of single, celibate life for the Christian, or at least about how it can feasibly be done. But that may be asking too much of them.

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the first word that comes to mind, and you've used it: awkward! while i'm all for a healthy open discussion on sex among the church (and i mean the people)- there are some things that seriously should be left behind closed doors! i do NOT like to hear about my friend's, parent's or pastor's sex lives...! that's weird. and the specifics about what is ok or not ok to do should be in the confines of an office or counseling session, not the pulpit! yikes! i think this guy's i playing on a bit of dangerous ground by not PROTECTING his wife and the intimacy they share. as a woman, i'd be horrified if my man did that! songs of songs is "explicit" in its own way of course, but if mr driscoll will remember, it is an intimate thing b/t two lovers AND is ALSO a parallel of what Gods wants in a relationship w/ us...the deep spiritual intimacy. i agree w/ you also, that it sounds like he is not open to encouraging the single person who may not have found the right person yet or wishes to stay celibate. if he'd like to have a closed church for married couples, perhaps he should then, otherwise, i would not think he's creating the most comfortable atmosphere...i may be wrong. but i see all sorts of holes in this. am i wrong for thinking these things?
I'm single. Divorced. I would not attend Driscoll's church. My experience has been that most churches shun singles either directly or indirectly. There's only one way to be accepted in the church, marriage and children.
Marriage counseling, marriage conferences etc... are a much more appropriate time and place to discuss the joys of sex in marriage.
Finally someone talking about sex in the church....
And, what? Wait, the singles feel left out?
I wonder how all the marrieds would feel if his thing were celibacy and the gift of the single life. Jaded? Ignored? Probably...
But the bigger question for all parties involved regardless of which conversation is had is whether the subject matter is too narrow to be applied to their lives at some point in the future. We each want a preacher on our side, speaking our language, talking about the things we care about (I mean, lets be honest, people care about sex), but we fail to realize that at every interval, in order to do so, it means the preacher will NOT talk about something that somebody else cares about.
That last comment was the best comment. And I've been single, married, divorced, single for another 8 years, and not married again. Personally, I appreciate a pastor who holds high the fact that Christian, monogamous, married sex is the best sex. It keeps the dream alive for some singles, at least it did for me, which helped me fight the lure of 'fake-sex' i.e. porn and pre-marital sex. Yes, there was an ache for the 'full' married' relationship, but instead of ignoring it and 'suppressing' it, I found it much more character building to dream big dreams and wait patiently. And God rewarded in His perfect timing. (not my timing.)
I can agree with what has been said by other comments on both sides of this issue. It is touchy I guess, because sex does need to be discussed openly somehow, because in the past, when Christians get married, they are somehow supposed to flip a switch all of the sudden from "taboo" to "celebration" of sex. This doesn't work if all of our lives we have been told it is taboo.
However, it should also not be used as an attractor of people. It is interesting that Driscoll has gained a reputation for this. As you stated, you anticipated him talking about sex, and then you were not let down. I wonder how many others go to hear a pastor simply because of the sexual topics of sermons. It is concerning that one would preach on it just to attract people, but I have witnessed it firsthand, and I know for a fact it certainly attracts the masses. "Sex Sells" and if it brings people in, I am sure it will continued to be preached on.
Phil
I couldn't agree with you more. I downloaded and listened to a number of the sermons during "The Peasant Princess" series and couldn't help but think the same thing: that this isn't for me. Not due to the vulgarity at times but because as single 24 year old male who is trying to abstain from that 'til marriage - there just wasn't really anything in it for me. I was just left, "Great! Glad you enjoyed it! I've unfortunately enjoyed it myself a number of times and yes, now miss it, but am not in a place to properly take on a marriage nor have met the right person. So really, I just feel entirely left out at this point."
You know, I am surrounded by many married friends who got married young, under 25, but I feel that most of them did 'cause of the pressure. The pressure of sex. The pressure from the church. The pressure from their married friends and often family. And that pressure will remain for them to have a kid, have more kids, and maybe at some point the pressure to stay married. But pressure versus feeling right about it was their motive and in this case, how is this a proper foundation for a solid marriage? But the church especially is laying on this pressure now. It seems like within the Church if you're dating and over-twenty that it's expected you'll get married to that person. But where is the personal accountability? Driscoll talks to much about the joys of marriage, the benefits but he often fails to lay down lessons on what a solid foundation looks like. I know he often speaks of counseling options, but what about a solid dating foundation, a ready to be married approach? I'd love to hear that. I think we get the point on sex now. But the Church is using sex to be relevant. It almost seems like it's a gimmick. And Mars Hill uses a lot of gimmicks I believe. That's not to say they aren't doing good though.
I have enjoyed the two parts to this series. I recently had a discussion with my staff about STD education with young people in church, both for their own protection and as a way of developing peer advocates. I came across some research by Peter Bearman, a Columbia University professor who studied the STD rates of abstinence pledgers and non pledgers. Turns out they are statistically even despite pledgers delaying sexual activity and getting married earlier. They believe the rate is the same due to lower condom use and higher rates of oral sex.
http://iserp.columbia.edu/publications/press-releases/after-promise-std-...
I pass along this information because it speaks to the complexity of sex and church. It also supports your growing rebuke of a singular approach to sexuality in church, and an embrace of a relationship to sexuality that embraces its complexity and potential for both good or evil. Looking forward to the next post in the series.
Amen muh brother. Thanks for this. I agree with you, about the pressure to get married, even if you aren't ready for it. It's daunting, and kinda repelling.
kaity